What did you learn to drive a manual transmission on?

"hethoughtofcars" (hethoughtofcars) 01/14/2014 at 16:38 • Filed to: manual, mitsubishi, toyota, driving skills

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What type of car did you learn how to drive a stick shift on? Was it your first car or did you learn later? For me, I had no choice as to what to learn on as both my parents' cars were manual transmission. I learned on a 1988 Corolla and a 1992 Mitsubishi Expo.

Gamecat235 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:39

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1985 Toyota Camry

ddavidn > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:40

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2000 Ford Focus. First car I bought (my MPV was free!) and I bought it before I knew how to drive it. It's a super easy one to learn on.

CounterTorqueSteer > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:41

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I taught myself on a 2003 Mazda RX-8. It was my first car. I hit a deer and totaled it two weeks after I bought it. :(

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:41

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A 1979 opel kadett, a 1986 citroen cx gti 16v turbo, a volvo 740 turbo and a vw passat (early nineties one ) the opel was my first car :)

RazoE > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:42

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1989 Supra. I didn't know how to drive it when I bought it, but I had 11 miles on the freeway each way to work, so I had to learn fast.

sp1nz1 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:42

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1989 Baretta GT! I loved that hunk of junk. Have yet to own a slushbox.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:43

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First time I ever drove one was a couple miles in my cousins 80's or early 90's Ford Ranger. Many years later I borrowed my brothers F-150 to go pick up lunch. First time I went any distance was when I borrowed my bro-in-laws F-150 to tow a trailer full of four wheelers a couple hundred miles round trip. Then I rented a Mazda 3 on a France/Switzerland/Italy ski trip and the following year bought my STI.

TL;DR - I learned on the STI that I bought, but had driven about 2,000 miles in various other cars over many years before I bought it.

kevinws4316 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:44

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1969 Porsche 911E Targa.

kevinws4316 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:44

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1969 Porsche 911E Targa.

Blathering Seagulls > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:44

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2003 Honda Civic Hybrid. It was actually a phenomenal car to learn on, because if you stalled it, just putting it back into gear would start it up again (it thought it had "auto-stopped," and would restart the engine like it would at any stoplight). Also, it wouldn't let you start in anything but 1st gear if it was auto-stopped, keeping you from trying to lurch forward in 5th. The gearbox was perfectly synchro'd too, so you could shift clutchless at 1600 rpm, if you rolled the throttle right.

I actually loved that car. Bought my own (same year, color, everything) when I graduated from college and gave it to my dad when his started to have problems at 250,000 miles.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:45

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A '91 Miata in this red. I was fifteen and it was my uncle's car at the time, well one of them.

Funnily enough, I flew an airplane for the first time a few months before so I've known how to pilot an airplane longer than I've known how to row my own gears lol.

J. Drew Silvers > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:45

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This:

About ten years ago.

jariten1781 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:46

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First ever: Some ratty 1970s Japanese bike

First car: Ford farm truck

First car on road: 91 Prelude

Textured Soy Protein > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:46

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My first attempt at learning stick was in 1998 on my friend's 1987 Nissan Sentra, like this:

My group of friends made fun of it for having a carburetor but we still all wanted to learn stick on it.

I retained a small bit of that knowledge but mostly taught myself when I got a 1992 Integra GSR in 2001.

The Real Dacia Sandero > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:47

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First time was on a '72 Beetle during a video shoot. First time really learning was when i got my '91 Miata.

oldirtybootz > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:47

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I taught myself the basics through video games and later on used Wranglers at work, but really my Dart is the car I taught myself to DD stick on.

WolfmanJimCBW > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:48

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1990 Mazda Miata.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:48

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I learned on my 1991 Audi 200 20v with quattro, a big turbo, a 5-speed manual, and windshield wipers that sucked. I learned in a parking lot real quick then drove it down 50+ miles of interstate with a clogged idle stabilizer valve that caused it to stall if it lost revs too quickly. Oh and there was a thunderstorm. And my radiator fan chewed into my coolant hose because my coolant tank was the wrong one but it was all I had since the previous owner cracked the tank that was in it and gave me that as a "replacement". So I taped the hose up and zip tied the tank as best I could into place to prevent any more accidents from happening.

I aged 5 years in that drive. But I did it.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:49

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Combo: 1986 Mazda B2000 2wd, extend cab and a 1989 Audi 100 Quattro.

Tekamul > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:50

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1988 Dodge Shadow.

(Not my photo, just a GIS grab)

It was my 2nd car. It was terrible from a maintenance point of view, but the clutch always held on strong. I bought it for a grand. Over 2 years I put 2 grand of work, and probably another $500 in oil into the damn thing. Even after a full rebuild (rings, HG, valve seats) it still had a small leak.

I still hate that car. Not the best manual to learn on. The CRX that followed a couple years after was a dream by comparison, even if it was an HF.

njp1589 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:51

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Late 90's V6 Camaro was what I first drove in a manual. It belonged to a friend who was helping me shop for a Miata, and he offered to let me learn on his (since it was old anyway). 1st gear syncro was busted, but other than that it was a good car to get the hang of things with.

The rest of my learning came on my '99 Miata. After I bought it, I then had to drive it 50 Miles to work. I got pretty good at starting it up after it had stalled on that trip.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:53

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1985 Ford Mustang LX, 4 Speed Manual, 4 Cylinder.

Pic is of a GIS'ed 5.0, apparently no one ever bothered to photograph the 4 cylinder lol. It was also the first engine I helped rebuild (at the age of 12)

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:53

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2012 Jeep Wrangler, lifted. It was my Uncle's, he just recently got rid of it.

Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:54

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Sad trombone womp womps for the Eggplant.

Hoccy > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:57

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I didn't learn it in a car, but the moped I got when I was 16. It was a 2008 Derbi Senda Xrace Offroad, and after driving that for two years driving a manual car was a piece of cake.

Nothing > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:58

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'72 Chevy C10, 307 with a three on the tree.

Drsweetdik > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:58

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I was 12 years old and king of the world.

hethoughtofcars > sp1nz1 01/14/2014 at 16:59

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Me too (yet to own an automatic, and never planning on it). Of course you can probably tell from my avatar. :)

Brian, The Life of > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:59

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Honestly, by the time I started driving I had been riding dirt bikes for so long that there was no manny-tranny "learning" involved. I just got in and did it. Never really thought about it that way but, yeah, I didn't really learn in a car.

Steve Zissou > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 16:59

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1995 Geo Prizm that looked exactly like this. Drove it for a year in high school. Thanks ma and pa!

hethoughtofcars > RazoE 01/14/2014 at 17:00

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That's kind of how I learned to drive a motorcycle. I bought it and had to figure out quick that (unlike a bicycle) the lever on the left doesn't operate the brakes!

hethoughtofcars > kevinws4316 01/14/2014 at 17:01

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Not fair.

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:01

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2004 Jetta TDI Sport Edition

Really easy to learn clutching, the transmission and the clutch feel just right, and are quite precise, especially for a car like the Jetta. There is so much torque at idle, you don't need to touch the accelerator, even on hill starts. It's still very possible to stall, but is difficult to do so, once you get the hang of it.

hethoughtofcars > WolfmanJimCBW 01/14/2014 at 17:01

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I guess it really is the answer to everything.

Casper > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:02

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An ancient 1970's Datsun 4x4 pickup that was a farm truck (one of the old ones running on Jeep gear). The brakes didn't really work and the transfer case was held in with rebar we occasionally had to reweld, but it worked well for getting firewood and had a winch to pull other stuff out with.

It looked kind of like this, just a lot shittier, covered in dents, and with bees coming out of the heater vents half the time:

hethoughtofcars > oldirtybootz 01/14/2014 at 17:03

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I can't imagine learning from a video game. Then again when I started driving, controllers looked like this:

KB Garage > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:04

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1950-something Massey Ferguson tractor. I was so young I wasn't strong enough to engage the clutch pedal without standing up and pushing up against the steering wheel for leverage.

First road legal vehicle (answered before) Datsun 720 king cab.

hethoughtofcars > CounterTorqueSteer 01/14/2014 at 17:04

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Wow, learning on a Wankel. You should get some kind of badge for that. :)

Zoom > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:04

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An '81 Dodge D50 pickup like this one. It was our parts chaser. I was 11.

Where have all the lightweights gone? > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:05

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A 1990 Geo Metro. Slower than molasses, but the steering was a no-assist rack and pinion setup. At least that was pretty nice.

hethoughtofcars > Blathering Seagulls 01/14/2014 at 17:06

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I didn't even realize there was a Civic hybrid manual. I know about the 1st gen Insight hybrid with a stick....a car I kind of want (shhhh....don't tell anyone).

hethoughtofcars > Textured Soy Protein 01/14/2014 at 17:09

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Yeah I was shocked (shocked!) when I found out that Corolla had a carb. I probably shouldn't have been though since my dad purchased the car new without air conditioning or even a radio. They made some pretty simple Japanese cars back in the 80's.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:10

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One of these bad boys...

hethoughtofcars > Tekamul 01/14/2014 at 17:10

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I believe you about the CRX HF. I owned a Del Sol that didn't even have power steering and put out a whooping 102 horsepower. I still miss that car.

oldirtybootz > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:11

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Well it started with just making the switch from auto to manual in games, then Forza 3 allowed you the option of a manual with clutch. From those I got familiar with how the gears are used. Once you understand that, it's just a matter of getting into a car and getting the feel for a real clutch and stick and how it's really done.

Blathering Seagulls > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:11

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Yeah, only '03-'05. I regularly got 50-55 mpg (actual) in the summers, and that's not even babying it, and at 100,000+ miles!

moralderpitude > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:11

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Bright red '98 Saturn SL2 wagon.

Although if you ask me some other time I'd be glad to tell you how I learned the shifting pattern by playing San Francisco Rush and Gran Turismo.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Gamecat235 01/14/2014 at 17:12

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Mine was an '86.

Man, my kids are going to have such a better first car than I did...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Drsweetdik 01/14/2014 at 17:12

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Yes you were.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:14

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I love threads like these that show the diversity of age and experience we have here on OPPO.

I love you guys [tear].

PatBateman > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:15

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Where did I learn to drive stick? Hard Drivin' arcade game in the late '80s. I'm being 100% serious.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:15

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My very first lesson was on one of those old car-sized Tacomas, but the majority of my learning and experience has been on our YJ Wrangler.

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I'm so used to our Jeep though, which has the notoriously crap Peugeot BA10/5 tranny, that I would have to re-learn how to drive manual if I were put into a regular car that doesn't have a stick-in-a-bowl-of-oatmeal shifter.

Übel > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:16

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Well, I got my first lesson in a MkIV Golf TDI, but I really learned in this:

'96 BMW Z3 owned by my dad, and then I perfected it when I got my MkIV GTI

Birddog > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:18

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An 83 Mercury Lynx when I was 12 years old.
I had the basics down though from riding Qa50s, YZ80s and a Maico MC250.

Boxer_4 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:20

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The first car I drove with a manual was a 2005 Chevy Cobalt LS Coupe. That was just moving it from one parking lot to another, so I didn't really get too much experience on it.

The car I really learned to drive manual was a 2002 E39 M5. It was a bit of a change.

Grindintosecond > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:21

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1981 VW Jetta...Diesel. All 1.6 liters of glorious N/A 51hp. I was 16. I could do 40 in second!! I probably was past redline as far as I know. It was 5 speeds. that was pretty much it. going up a decent hill I had to turn off the A/C...downshift to 4th as well if anyone else was in it. THIS did just fine as basic transportation for a new family and got phenominal mileage. Who needs a 263hp v6 Camry???

hethoughtofcars > PatBateman 01/14/2014 at 17:23

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But could you stall it?

SonorousSpeedJoe > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:26

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I learned the concept of manual shifting on Gran Turismo 5 using a Logitech G27, and my dad bought a manual 2012 Focus when he replaced his 2005 Toyota Matrix so that I could learn how to drive a stickshift car in real life. I'm the one who usually drives it now, since my dad picked up a more comfortable used automatic Accord a few months back.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:28

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I properly learned on 2 cars at the same time, a '95 Passat TDi, that tended to slip out of 3rd gear. It was great fun, and it had a turbo gauge, for when I drove it harder! But the car where I really perfected the stick on was a '91 VW Golf Diesel, non turbo. 45hp at best. top speed of 65mph, and a clutch more worn out than Yo mama joke. It was a challenge, but it was a hoot to drive

stuttgartobsessed > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:30

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I learned on my neighbors "new" Mini. I think it was a mid 2000's model Cooper S. Stalled it across a church parking lot before finally getting the hang of it. It was equally terrifying as it was fun.

WolfmanJimCBW > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:30

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You are correct sir. Easy to learn on too.

GTCL > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:32

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1986 Mustang GT that belonged to my dad. I was supposed to get it when he moved on from it, but i didn't have the space at the time, so my wife said no. It went to my sister who promptly put it up on craigslist to sell with a description that didn't match the characteristics of the car.

Big Bubba Ray > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:35

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1991 Isuzu Trooper. This isn't the actual one, but the car I learned on was white...underneath all the rust. It was my cousins car and I was learning in the mountains of Colorado which made me learn how to do a proper hill start pretty quickly.

Edit: Kinja is being an asshole. Won't let me post a picture!

trynthink > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:35

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My first lessons were on a Saturn SL1 with no first gear (syncro was destroyed).

I first drove outside of a parking lot in a Nissan hardbody pickup.

But up until I bought my current car (2006 Civic), I hadn't driven stick more than a half dozen times in total. The test drive was...short and terrible.

Big Bubba Ray > Big Bubba Ray 01/14/2014 at 17:37

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There we go.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:37

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1996 Toyota Camry :D

190e30-Now with COSWORTH > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:41

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I have an awesome dad.

Technically, I barely learned to drive stick in it, since it was for about a half hour and I never went above 30mph/2nd gear. Still, its a lot more fun to say I learned how to drive/drive stick in than what I really learned how to drive properly in.

PatBateman > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:49

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Yup. You even had to turn the "key" to restart the engine.

hethoughtofcars > Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken 01/14/2014 at 17:55

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Hey, every car is made better by a manual. Even a Cavalier. Plus you didn't burn out the clutch on a "good car" by learning on a Chevy. :)

hethoughtofcars > Grindintosecond 01/14/2014 at 17:56

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Well it had vent windows, so that's two things going for it.

syaieya > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 17:57

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1966 VW Beetle. It was a blue car, completely unrestored.

Unfortunately it was stolen from infront of my dad's shop a couple years ago.

hethoughtofcars > Hoccy 01/14/2014 at 18:00

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Yeah, learning on something with two wheels makes learning a clutch on a car so easy by comparison. Mostly because if you stall a manual in a car you are just embarrassed. On a motorcycle you are on your side.

hethoughtofcars > stuttgartobsessed 01/14/2014 at 18:01

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Mini's are awesome to learn on because of the hill holder feature that doesn't make you roll terrifyingly backwards when you engage the clutch and take your foot off the brake.

AthomSfere > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:02

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More or less this:

Then one of these:

Grindintosecond > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:02

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oh yeah. they were nice....I never found them worthwhile unless I could turn them around and force air in.

hethoughtofcars > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 01/14/2014 at 18:03

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They were still putting manuals in Camrys in the '90s?

raygone > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:03

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Well my first car was an auto, and my parents didn't get that I wanted to drive stick, so my first experiences were on Forza (Clutch on the controller) and later rFactor with a G27 on PC. Since I was looking at getting a fox mustang, my friend who owns a 93 LX 5.0 offered to let me try and drive it!
(That's his there)

Tranny needed a rebuild and the first and second gear synchros were on their ways out, but it was a nice experience. I didn't stall it once, and never over revved it. Not uber pro level, but I did alright.
After that I didn't drive stick unless it was in rFactor or GT5, until I bought my 98 Mustang GT a few months later. Spent a solid few hours with it and got it down. Video games (specifically rFactor) helped a lot, surprisingly.

DancesWithRotors - Driving Insightfully > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:09

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First, my dad's '98 F-150 with a worn-out clutch, and then later, my aunt's 2007 Miata, back when it only had 5000 miles on it.

stuttgartobsessed > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:09

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I don't think this one had that. Or it did but I was never on a hill big enough for it to engage. I however did recently get a chance to drive a 2013 WRX STI that the hill hold feature and it threw me off. I can see how its nice but only once you get used to it.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:16

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Yes.

I think the manual camry stays until late 2000 or so.

Fookin' Prawns > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/14/2014 at 18:19

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"Get in gear, you!"

The Millennial Falcon > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:25

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2003 E39 M5. the thought of burning bmw clutch /what's left of my college fund sped the process up.

hethoughtofcars > stuttgartobsessed 01/14/2014 at 18:45

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Well mine was the second gen Mini (a Clubman). The e90 BMW I owned also had it. When learning to drive a stick shift my biggest fears were 1) stalling it and 2) Rolling backwards into the car behind me.

hethoughtofcars > PatBateman 01/14/2014 at 18:47

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Wow. That's fairly realistic. I dig your username. Are you a Bret Easton Ellis fan?

Fookin' Prawns > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 18:51

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1994 BMW 325i convertible, my current car. I've burned the clutch on a couple occasions :'(

JACU - I've got bonifides. > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 19:21

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And thus began my love for wagons with manual transmissions.

hethoughtofcars > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 01/14/2014 at 19:32

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Turbo gauge?!? Neither of my first cars even had a tach. (you shifted by sound)

hethoughtofcars > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/14/2014 at 19:37

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Or you could just be the "cool guy" who always drives Pugs (aka French cars) for the rest of your life...

hethoughtofcars > trynthink 01/14/2014 at 19:40

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That's ok. I've test driven cars where the salesperson didn't know how to drive stick. He told me it 'looked fun'

biturboism, the cult > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 19:40

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I learned everything I known in practice about cars in/on this, not just manualliism. Also, I tested my natural oppo instincts in it multiple times - not on and off purpose (I developed them on RFactor.)

After 20 years and half a milion kilometers of East - European torture it finally found it's final resting place. It has spotless paint, with the exception of a dodgy roof repair of a previous rollover (?!), I got it for 600eur with an LPG (Propane-buthane) system, installed by an ape.
The brake fluid was probably the original - it had turned into something truly disgusting and had so much sud in it, it looked like runny raw petrolium. The LPG was a true fire hazard and the transmission oil had at least 300K km on it - it had separated into black goo and watery snot that contained so much abrasive material I should have made gearbox sandpaper. After changing said oil the gearbox started producing the ungodly sounds of slap and grind, which made me stop all the clutchless action I got into.
This is my first car, my first interior-rip cleaning, my first car audio install, my first engined rebuild, my first heel&toe rig, my first full master-cylinder-back brake swap, my first full power steering system replacement in a snowstorm at night (my father's C4 ran and had high beams on to finish trough the night)+(the problem was not there, it figured).
It can only drift in the snow, it can only overtake stopped traffic and it only cost me 1 year worth of college high grades scholarship bonus.
But what I learned from the ownership, I consider priceless!

hethoughtofcars > biturboism, the cult 01/14/2014 at 19:45

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Awesome. I have a soft spot for Pugs. At my job I read a lot of police reports where the car rolled over. Apparently it's surprisingly easy, especially when drunk....

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 19:46

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yeah ,this car had many luxury features, like a tach, a turbo gauge, an oil preassure gauge and a working gas gauge. The Dieself golf didn't have a tach, though. it didn't even have an accurate speedo. at low speeds, you could hear the speedo belt whirring away under the hood :P

911e46z06 > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 19:49

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Took my first lesson at 10 years old. I still enjoy driving this thing as much as I enjoy driving the Z06.

PatBateman > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 20:46

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I like some of his work, but American Psycho is a favorite of mine. I'm in finance, and I chose the name as a play on irony. A nice-guy-family-man working in finance using the name of a psychotic serial killer working in finance.

gmctavish needs more space > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 21:20

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First standard car I ever drove was a friend's dad's Mk4 VW Golf TDI, 6spd. Like this except for the low.

Next was my friends's 1989 Dodge Raider, seen here with as much stuff as we could physically fit in it for a camping trip.

But I learned to drive on public roads with a manual in my '69 Volvo 144

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > hethoughtofcars 01/14/2014 at 22:34

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1930 Ford Model A. It was my dad's. It is possible to chirp the tires with 38 hp when you only have 3 in wide tires.

Axial > hethoughtofcars 01/15/2014 at 00:03

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I learned on a yellow Dodge Dakota just like this one:

It was a 5-speed. I took about around three hours to learn how to drive it with a performance instructor (also the sales guy) and then went home and resumed practise on the freshly purchased Corvette. Stick was much easier on the Corvette, thanks to torque.

Axial > PatBateman 01/15/2014 at 00:05

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I've only played the Sega Genesis version, and it wasn't anywhere near as realistic. The cabinet sounds awesome.

MC_Leon6494 > hethoughtofcars 01/15/2014 at 01:01

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My 2003 Honda Accord Coupe. (Pic isnt mine, strangely couldnt find any on my comp. same color) I have the inline 4 with the 5 speed. Its a great little car and a lot of fun. Got it back in July and have been loving it ever since. Probably gonna trade to a Miata this Spring, hopefully anyways. I will miss Jenny terribly (yeah i named her)

thebigbossyboss > hethoughtofcars 01/15/2014 at 07:27

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2004 Mustang 5.0L V8

Looked like this (although this is a 2000) but with a slightly different flame paint job. Hard car to learn on.